Leigh & Robert Bortins - Why Parents Are Ditching Public Schools for Homeschooling
In this 3 April 2025 video, host Shawn Ryan talks with Leigh Bortins, the founder of Classical Conversations, a global homeschooling program rooted in classical, Christian education. With degrees in aerospace engineering and ministry, she blends analytical rigor with deep educational vision. A mother of four and grandmother of three, Leigh’s passion for home education began with homeschooling her own children. She’s authored several books—including The Core, The Question, and The Conversation—that guide parents through the classical trivium.
Robert Bortins, CEO of Classical Conversations, was homeschooled by Leigh and now leads the organization with a bold vision for educational reform. A mechanical engineering graduate and entrepreneur, Robert champions faith-based, family-led learning, helping over 125,000 students across 50 states and 30 countries thrive through critical thinking and community.
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00:00 Introduction to Horace Mann and Public School System
02:42 Concerns About Modern Education
08:41 Historical Context of Public Education
18:32 Introduction to Classical Conversations
28:52 Personal Journey to Homeschooling and Faith
42:51 The Rise of Compulsory Education in the 1920s
47:32 The History and Impact of Removing Prayer from Schools
48:51 The Influence of Horace Mann on Public Education
01:12:29 The Practicalities of Homeschooling
01:27:40 Understanding Classical Conversations
01:46:04 Community Dynamics and Discipline
01:53:13 Memorization Techniques in Classical Education
02:19:02 Challenge Levels and Their Focus
02:21:07 Homeschooling Outcomes and Community
02:26:38 Encouraging Curiosity and Critical Thinking
02:30:11 Curiosity in Parenting
02:30:25 Parental Concerns and Motivation
02:31:07 Introduction to the Essentials Program
02:31:44 Faces of History and Presentation Skills
02:39:18 Special Needs and Community Support
02:59:22 Classical Education Philosophy
03:06:57 Homeschooling as a Lifestyle
03:08:09 Conclusion and Final Thoughts
